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    Is insulin free? The $8 oolong case on Twitter "knocked out" Lilly's 20 billion market value, and also poked out the proposition of the century in the pharmaceutical industry...

    • Last Update: 2022-11-26
    • Source: Internet
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    On Twitter, where Musk has not yet "tamed", with $8, he "poked" a century proposition in the pharmaceutical industry
    .

    The "sky-high price of insulin" in the United States has been criticized for a long time, and this time because of an "oolong" once again ignited social media
    .
    On November 5, US time, Twitter's new boss Musk launched the blue V authentication function, users only need $8 to get blue V authentication, and no identity authentication
    is required.
    Unexpectedly, this function was launched less than a week after the "big basket"
    .

    On November 10, a fake Eli Lilly Blue V Twitter user posted a message: We are excited to announce that insulin products are now free (We are excited to announce insulin is free now)
    。 Although Lilly later apologized and issued a clarification statement, saying that the above was false news, the news still had a huge impact: Lilly's stock price quickly fell by more than 3%, the market value lost more than $20 billion in two days, and after this "reversal", the incident accelerated heated discussions and continued to ferment.

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    However, it is thought-provoking that the strong reaction of the American people is not aimed at rumors and Twitter, but at the "greed" of pharmaceutical companies.
    In fact, this fake tweet has largely rekindled the point of contention over insulin pricing, namely the "high price"
    of insulin in the United States.

    According to Fox News, the price of insulin in the United States has soared 600% in nearly 20 years, and according to Reuters in April, patients spent an average of $375 a month on the life-saving drug, up to $1,000
    .
    Compared with other countries, the price of insulin in the United States is almost 10 times
    higher.

    In addition, a rather "ironic" view is also widely circulated, insulin discoverer Banting once sold insulin patents for only $1, but now the price of insulin in the United States is high, and related pharmaceutical companies use insulin to make a lot
    of money.
    Some netizens shouted, "The move of the 'rumor-mongers' is even closer to justice", "Liars are not criticized, and victims are not sympathetic".
    .
    .

    It is not difficult to understand a series of questions from netizens - "Why is the price of insulin so expensive in the United States?" "Why are there so big differences between countries?" "The cost of insulin is already very controllable, why can't the price go down?"

    01 Who should price drugs?

    Who should price the drugs?

    Unlike the situation where domestic insulin has undergone a sharp price reduction in special centralized procurement, in the United States, the price of insulin has been under fire, and the US government has also been arguing over insulin pricing for many years
    .

    Related insulin giants Eli Lilly, Sanofi and Novo Nordisk were once at the center of the lawsuit due to the rise in insulin prices
    .
    After combing, the content of multiple lawsuits pointed to a common point, in the past 10 years, the production cost of insulin and other products has obviously decreased, but pharmaceutical companies have still increased the price of diabetes drugs, but the drug itself has hardly "grown"
    except for the price.

    "We will take on
    the greed of the pharmaceutical industry.
    " This also makes diabetics complain
    .
    Some netizens also lamented that this is the void cost generated by the continuous matryoshka between hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies after the privatization of medical care, all of which are passed on to the people
    .

    After years of controversy, the U.
    S.
    Congress issued a "shot" in June 2022, unveiling a bill
    that has attracted much attention from the outside world.
    Under the bill, Medicare beneficiaries and private insurance plan beneficiaries would have no more than $35 per month in insulin prescription drug
    deductibles.
    The bill would require at least 60 senators to vote for it in the Senate, though some Republicans argue that deductible limits would only place too much burden on Medicare and would not help attract drug companies to expand production
    .

    Although pharmaceutical companies have been criticized for obtaining huge profits by relying on patent monopolies, in order to attract pharmaceutical companies to expand production or continue to innovate, "rate of return" has always been a major driving force for pharmaceutical companies to move forward, and the price formation mechanism of innovative drugs will directly affect the market expectations
    of enterprises.

    Previously, Bi Jingquan, deputy director of the Economic Committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference and executive vice chairman of the China Center for International Economic Exchanges, publicly stated that the research and development of new drugs is a high-risk undertaking, how much new drugs can be sold after they are launched, whether the sales revenue can cover the cost of research and development, whether there can be profits to invest in new research and development, and the role of market mechanism should be played by enterprises to make independent decisions, bear their own risks, and bear their own profits and losses
    .
    For high-priced innovative drugs, medical insurance determines the payment standard
    according to the financial situation.

    However, why are US drug prices so expensive? Why has the "US version of medical insurance negotiations" been unresolved? Where is the reasonable space for pharmaceutical companies' profits? How to promote the better development of the industry by balancing commercial value and public welfare? In general, different policies between countries, the relationship between pharmaceutical companies and the government, and differences in medical insurance systems will affect the "pricing"
    of drugs.

    Many industry insiders previously said in interviews with E drug managers that "lowering drug prices" is not a new topic, but it is difficult
    to implement.
    Unlike China, Big Pharma has the ability to negotiate and balance with the FDA and government teams, so drug prices are unlikely to be lowered
    .

    The above people believe that the US drug price can not be cut is not unrelated to the lobbying of big pharma, on the other hand, drugs account for only 10% of the overall cost of medical care in the United States, in recent years the US economy has become tense, once this knife cut down, but in fact may damage the vitality of the entire market
    .

    The head of BD of a Chinese innovative pharmaceutical company in the United States told E drug managers that due to different policies, the pricing power of drugs in the US market is largely in the hands
    of enterprises.
    "Because the United States as a whole still wants to support innovation, if it is constrained in price, it may discourage enterprises to innovate
    .
    " I don't think it's very likely to go through such drug price negotiations
    .

    In addition, she also said that the coverage mechanism of the medical insurance system in China and the United States is different
    .
    China is basically paid by the state, but the United States is more about the coexistence
    of commercial insurance and national medical insurance.
    At present, the United States can only control the group over 65 years old or low-income people in terms of health insurance, because the health insurance of these people is paid for by the government
    .
    The United States has always wanted to control drug prices, but because the US market has a complex price system for drugs, there has been no good way
    to deal with it.
    Another R&D director of a multinational pharmaceutical company also holds a similar view
    .

    The problem that insulin in the United States is facing is also the balance
    between the interests and the public good that all drugs need to address.

    02 Behind the sunk cost, where is the balance between commercial value and social value?

    Behind the sunk cost, where is the balance between commercial value and social value?

    On November 14, Roche announced the results of the GRADUATE clinical phase III trial of gantenerumab in early Alzheimer's disease, the study did not meet the primary endpoint of slowing cognitive decline in patients with early Alzheimer's disease, and the removal level of β-amyloid was also lower than expected; Specific top-line data will be announced
    at the CTAD meeting.
    Affected by the news, Roche shares fell 4% on Monday, while the shares of partner MorphoSys plunged 32%.

    At the beginning of 2022, Fierce Pharma has published a ranking of the most talked about drugs, with gantenerumab becoming one of
    the most talked about drugs this year.
    Gantenerumab is almost Roche's last hope
    for commercialization in AD in recent years.
    Among Roche's product candidates, there are also two tau protein antibodies semorinemab and bepranemab for the treatment of Alzheimer, but both are still in clinical phase II
    .
    development.

    Roche has suffered two setbacks
    in the AD space in the past decade.
    Gantenerumab stopped research and development in 2014 due to unfavorable phase III data, and this "resurrection" is undoubtedly Roche's
    great expectations.
    Levi, Chief Medical Officer of Roche Garraway called the news "disappointing" in a statement, adding that "GRADUATE's results were not what we had hoped for
    .
    " ”

    Not only Roche, in the past decade, AD is like a huge black hole, swallowing the investment of major pharmaceutical companies, people regret research and development not only in the fact that most of these products have gone to phase III clinical failure, and the "result" is always a foot
    away.

    In 2013, Johnson & Johnson/Pfizer's monoclonal antibody drug bapineuzumab Phase III clinical fiasco; In 2014, Roche gantenerumab phase III clinical data did not meet expectations; In 2016, Eli Lilly's widely anticipated new AD drug solanezumab Phase III clinical trial data did not meet expectations; In 2017, Merck announced that it would stop developing the BACE inhibitor verubecestat; In 2018, Eli Lilly and AstraZeneca announced the termination of lanabecestat, a BACE inhibitor in a global phase III clinical trial program for the treatment of AD; In 2019, Roche announced Crenezumab Phase III clinical trial did not meet expectations.
    .
    .

    According to a previous report released by the American Association of Drug Manufacturing and Research and Development in 2018, from 2000 to 2017 alone, pharmaceutical companies have invested more than 600 billion US dollars in research and development for Alzheimer's disease
    .
    With the continuous investment of pharmaceutical companies in recent years, this figure may exceed trillion US dollars in the future
    .

    Pharmaceutical companies are investing in AD research and development like moths to the fire, which is a growing demand and potential commercial market
    with the aging of the world.
    Not only in the field of AD, new drug research and development is not a "social reasoning" problem, will not give the answer for people to explore the process
    .

    Last year, in October and November alone, 15 failed R&D projects were reported through the open media
    .
    Unfavorable research and development of new drugs has never been a matter of failure
    .
    For pharmaceutical companies, failure means a lot of money and investment, and for patients, these upfront research and development costs are likely to become factors
    that drive up drug prices.

    Merck founder George Merck once said: "We should always remember that drugs are made for human beings, not for profit
    .
    " "However, tens of trillions of dollars of sunk costs, if there is no reasonable commercial return in the future, will undoubtedly discourage pharmaceutical companies from research and development, which is why as mentioned earlier, the right to speak on the pricing of new drugs in the US market is still in the hands
    of pharmaceutical companies.
    "

    The "ten billion dollars" law of research and development seems to make pharmaceutical companies' pursuit of profit margins and improve the economic accessibility of drugs to patients seem to be two contradictory things
    .

    Perhaps more than ten billion dollars, some people have estimated that the actual cost of pharmaceutical companies to successfully develop a drug is 1.
    395 billion US dollars, plus making up for capital time and opportunity costs, and the cost of developing a new drug is 2.
    558 billion US dollars
    .

    Behind the high investment, how to reduce drug prices, improve the economic accessibility of patients, how to ensure the return of pharmaceutical companies, and improve the enthusiasm of research and development, seems to have never been a difficult problem
    without a correct answer.

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