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    A doctor was treating a heart patient at the time of the hospital's crash.

    • Last Update: 2020-10-17
    • Source: Internet
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    (Health Times reporter Lu Yang Yu)
    media reported that a traffic accident occurred outside the gate of The North Lake Hospital of Jilin University's Sino-Japanese Friendship Hospital. The person concerned turned to the hospital for help but was refused and the injured person was not allowed to be taken to another hospital 14 km away for treatment. How the situation at the time of the incident, health Times reporters interviewed the parties and the hospital, restore the details of the day.
    parties: a car accident at the hospital door to seek help from a doctor was refused
    On the morning of October 10, a health Times reporter interviewed the party Mr. Dong, referring to the details of the day, Mr. Dong also experienced. Mr. Dong recalled that at about 17:20 on October 7, he drove his mother to the North Lake Hospital of Jilin University's Sino-Japanese Friendship Hospital, only to open the hospital gate and suddenly collide with a motorcycle while turning. "The motorcyclist flew out three or four meters away, his head was bloodied and he was bleeding all over the place, and suddenly he and his mother were scared."
    Mr. Dong immediately dialed 120 and asked his mother to rush to North Lake Hospital for help. "120 phone calls told me that the site of the incident was very close to North Lake Hospital, it is better to let the hospital out of a board car, or let the doctor or nurse out to see the situation." Mr. Dong said that because he did not know first aid knowledge, at that time also dare not venture to deal with the injured, for fear of causing other injuries.
    "My mother went to the hospital to find a doctor, security help, when I entered my mother is talking to the doctor, emergency surgeon said: 'You hurry to send ah, our doctor out of work is a medical accident, we have to be fired'."
    Mr Tung has repeatedly told doctors that he has no first aid experience and is afraid to dispose of it without authorization. "Are you dead or not, and no one can come out?" The doctor replied, "Don't tell me, I'm on duty here, I'm not at the gate!" Mr
    Dong dialed 120 again, waiting nearly 40 minutes later, 120 emergency vehicles sent the injured to Jilin University, 14 kilometers away, the Sino-Japanese Joint Hospital General Hospital for treatment.
    Hospital: At the time of the incident, doctors were rescuing heart patients
    the hospital responded, "Because of the outbreak and during the holidays, security nurses are a person eyeing a post, but also ask the parties to understand."
    October 10 at 10 a.m., Jilin University Sino-Japanese Friendship Hospital staff to the Health Times reporter, according to surveillance video, etc. , has been restored to the incident, and the network reports, the parties have some discrepancies. On the evening of October 7, two doctors from the Emergency Medicine Department of North Lake Hospital District were on duty. Emergency physicians were always treating heart patients during the incident.
    Jilin University Sino-Japanese Friendship Hospital provided the health Times reporter with the investigation:
    17:23, a traffic accident occurred in the traffic light area outside the main gate of the North Lake Hospital District, a young man was injured in multiple places.
    17:25, the mother of the driver involved entered the hospital emergency room to look for emergency surgeons, because the emergency surgeon on duty is treating patients, the driver's mother did not see emergency surgeons, then asked the security guard to carry patients outside the hospital, security guards because one person on duty can not go out. The mother of the person involved also asked the security guard for help to dial 120, and the security guard advised the mother of the person involved to call for details.
    17:30, the driver and his mother went to the emergency room and asked the on-duty doctor to get a flat-panel truck to push the patient forward. The emergency surgeon said, "You hurry up and bring it over, our doctor is out of work is a medical accident and you have to fire us" and advised the driver involved to find someone else to help transport the injured to the emergency department.
    17:49, the driver's mother entered the hospital emergency room, emergency surgeons took the initiative to inquire about the patient's condition, the mother did not respond to the patient's injuries.
    17:51, the emergency physician received a call from the traffic police brigade and immediately reported the total administrative value of the hospital area.
    18:01, the district administrative total value of the shift led security guards to the scene of the accident outside the hospital, with Changchun Emergency Center 120 first responders, traffic police dealing with the accident to persuade the injured through 120 ambulances transferred to the hospital for further treatment. After more than 20 minutes of persuasion, the patient agreed to accept 120 ambulance transport.
    18:23, Changchun Emergency Center 120 emergency vehicles transferred patients to the central hospital area of our hospital.
    Netizens: The two sides point of view
    As things ferment, there are two opinions on the Internet:
    people think that on-duty doctors, nurses and security guards, there is no basic professional ethics, "go out to help carry patients to the emergency department, is it that difficult?"" Isn't it a duty to save the dead and wounded?"
    . However, some people think: really like the hospital director said, doctors leave the post without permission to be punished. If the patient's condition worsens due to unauthorized departure, even if only for a minute, resulting in a medical accident, who is responsible for the patient and who is responsible for the doctor who leaves the post?
    netizens said, "The injured have the conditions and ability to go to the emergency department, I think people (doctors) deal with no problem." "Family members to the hospital to push a car, push past all ok, have to die and other doctors to come, this is not nothing to look for?", "the injured are conditions and ability to go to the emergency department, and not can not move, but also the doctor eight lift the big car to the emergency room?" Don't kidnap a doctor with a moral to save the dead and wounded! "
    Lawyer: There are three factors to be concerned about in determining the responsibility of the incident
    " Three factors in the incident are critical to determining the incident, that is, whether the caller describes the distance of the incident to the doctor when he or she asks for help, whether the description of the injured person's condition is accurate, and whether the doctor is treating other patients urgently. Li Huixuan, a member of the Standing Committee of the Medical Risk Management Committee of the Chinese Physicians Association and a lawyer at The Law Firm of Zhonglun Wende in Beijing, told the Health Times.
    "the distance between the injured and the hospital emergency department is important. Legally speaking, there is no so-called 'death without help' in the act of the emergency doctor in this incident, the doctor and the security guard have no legal obligation to treat, and the statutory duties of the doctor and the security guard are performed within their prescribed time and space. If the distance is relatively far, the emergency doctor in the matter so-called 'one person, one job' is binding, can not go out. Mr. Li explained.
    previous regulations on the management of medical institutions mentioned that medical institutions should provide timely assistance to critically ill patients, and there are relevant provisions in the Law on Medical Practitioners, which stipulate that doctors of critically ill patients should take urgent measures and not refuse to do so. "These provisions are not implemented in the context of such incidents, but the general principles and spirit should be binding on both medical institutions and medical personnel and should be morally fulfilled to the obligation to assist patients." According to Mr. Li, this matter needs to be viewed from different aspects of the legal and moral levels. "For patients who are closer to the emergency department outside the door, doctors have a moral obligation to come and see them."
    if the caller tells the doctor that the patient's distance is short enough, it will increase the doctor's moral obligation to treat the patient," he said. At the same time, the helper will continue to increase the doctor's duty to treat the injured after describing the patient's injuries clearly. Finally, if a doctor does not have a patient on hand who is being treated urgently, it is the sacred duty of the doctor to provide assistance to the injured without affecting the work of the hospital in a moment." Mr Li said the matter was mainly about the ability of medical staff to react, make decisions, act, take responsibility and the feelings of the medical staff. It's not a good legal evaluation, but morally, the doctors involved don't show the feelings and temperature they deserve, and they look cold. However, as far as the matter itself is not appropriate to expand to the hospital level, but the individual situation of medical personnel.
    not the first time such incidents have been encountered. It is hoped that the relevant departments will be more clear in the rule-making, and that the boundary scope should be clearly defined for the treatment of accidents in the vicinity of the gate of medical institutions, so as to facilitate the timely assistance of medical personnel. "Mr. Li Huixuan suggested that this matter is also a microcosm of the doctor-patient relationship in recent years, medical personnel are afraid of responsibility, more than less, doctors dare not cross the border, dare not express their views outside the illegal duties of the post, make actions and so on.
    s "shrinking" thinking is bound to show a cold reaction when things happen. This is an internal psychological externalization, is a deep-seated problem.
    October 10, a Health Times reporter contacted Jilin Provincial Health Andy Committee, a staff member said, has been concerned about Jilin University Sino-Japanese Friendship Hospital North Lake Hospital incident, the incident is still under further investigation.
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