Li wants to comment on Tesla: million-level control, 100,000-level interior

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As a hybrid practitioner in the Internet and automobile industries, when I heard that Tesla was going to officially enter the Chinese market, I was thrilled.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Tesla encountered a lot of ups and downs when it entered the Chinese market.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">No wait, it's time to hand in the homework, because the four-wheel drive P85D is on the market.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">[Configuration and price]

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Compared with this price point, the configuration of Tesla P85 is more like a beggar disciple.

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7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As we all know, the P85 comes standard with a very powerful central control large screen, which has attracted a lot of attention.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">I didn’t choose the 21-inch wheels because I was afraid of bumping and I was worried that I couldn’t buy winter tires of this size; I didn’t choose the leather interior because Tesla actually sewed Nappa leather to the door panel (I really don’t know who it was sewn there for) , Rather than the position of the center console and the door; I did not choose the ambient light in the car because I hate any extra lights in the car at night.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Speaking of the price, Tesla is really kind.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Tesla’s cars can only be ordered through optional equipment and delivered within three to four months.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">【Exterior and luggage】

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">I won’t say much about the appearance of the P85.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Red, the most expensive multi-layered car paint, has a great visual appearance.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The optional LED fog lights also play a role in steering assistance.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">I don't smoke, the panoramic sunroof is useless, and the sealant strip of the sunroof is too rough for details.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The comfortable entry and the cool retractable door handle make it full of technology, like a car from the future.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The rearview mirror of the P85 is much longer than the average car, so you must pay special attention when passing through narrow places.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">My P85 is a 19-inch standard tire, Goodyear, exactly the same as the 19-inch Cadillac XTS, the market price is only more than 1,000 yuan, it is easy to buy.
I didn’t choose the 21-inch (19-inch and 21-inch widths are 245, 21-inch Michelin PS2 comes standard, this specification PS2 is difficult to buy in the market), on the one hand, I hope to be more comfortable, on the other hand, I am right P85's performance in winter is not assured, so winter tires will definitely be used in winter.
I have never seen a 21-inch winter tyre with my own eyes.
The 19-inch winter tyre is too easy to buy.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">P85 tires have a complex contradiction: the comprehensive contradiction of energy consumption, width, vehicle weight, tire pressure, torque, and grip.
The P85 has a huge torque and can release 100% of the torque at any time.
The 245-width tire is obviously not the opponent of torque.
What will happen if it is widened? Power consumption will be greatly increased.
As a new energy vehicle that highlights environmental protection, P85 chose to reduce power consumption and use a tire width that is only sufficient for grip.
On the other hand, despite the use of an all-aluminum body, the weight of the P85 has reached more than 2.
1 tons (the 85kWh battery pack is already the lightest in the world, and it is about the same weight as the 50kWh battery pack of other brands, 500 kg).
The weight of the car is comparable to that of the 5.
3-meter Mercedes-Benz S and medium and large four-wheel drive SUVs.
The tires with only 245 widths can cope with the heavy pressure of this weight.
If the weight of the car is not widened, then the tire pressure can only be increased.
Therefore, the standard tire pressure of the P85 is an outrageous 3.
1.
With such a high tire pressure, the comfort and grip will decrease.
Fortunately, the air suspension of the P85 is very good.
Great, no problem with comfort.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">What happens if the tire pressure of P85 is set to 2.
4 or 2.
5 of a normal vehicle? On the one hand, the naked eye can see that the rear wheel is a bit flat (the motor and the controller are on the rear axle), on the other hand, the tire pressure alarm will harass you endlessly.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The heated front windshield glass added to the P85 winter optional package is very good.
It has not been used in winter, but the heat insulation in summer is quite good, the effect is very obvious, and no film is required.
It is estimated that Palo Alto (Tesla headquarters) is bathed in California's sunshine and ultraviolet rays all year round.
What Palo Alto brings to the P85 is not a good thing.
The car’s wipers are extremely difficult to use, and they are not clean.
It’s the same with new wipers.
The P85 is the worst wiper in the car I’ve driven so far.
One.
Is it really because Palo Alto rarely rains? Engineers have no chance to be exposed to rainy weather.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The P85 is neither a run-flat tire nor a spare tire.
It does not provide tire repair equipment.
It does not even have a jack or a wrench.
After tying the tire, the only way is to use a floor truck to tow.
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I don’t want to wait for a tow truck on the highway, so Throw a bottle of tire repair agent in the trunk in case of accidents.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">What makes me most satisfied with the P85 is the two huge suitcases at the front and rear.
They are big and flat.
They are great.
They have more things than an SUV.
I like to drive P85 when I go to the supermarket.
When I load things into the suitcase in front, the strange eyes of passersby can fully satisfy my vanity.
I have never seen such a shameless car owner.
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7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">【Interior and Seat】

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">According to the price of 1 million yuan, the interior of Tesla P85 is a scum, visually at best the level of Magotan and Accord.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The internal details are more scumbags than the visuals.
There are only two cup holders in the entire car.
Putting a water bottle on it will shake and affect the elbow when turning.
There is no place to put items on the four doors, not even the central armrest box.
I didn't lie to you, the P85 really does not have a central armrest box.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Since there is no transmission shaft, gearbox and traditional gear lever, the rear air conditioner does not need a separate blower.
The storage space in the car is concentrated in the big slot under the big screen.
I was still very clueless to choose that slot.
Installed an ugly yacht wood (don't expect the texture of the yacht wood with Mercedes-Benz CLS SB trunk).
All things can only be placed in this slot, such as a mobile phone.
When the vehicle accelerates faster, the mobile phone slides backward, and when the vehicle brakes harder, the mobile phone slides to the front.
The female compatriots put the bag very well, but the male compatriots can only complain.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As for the big screen in the central control, the more you use it, the easier it will be to understand why you have this big screen: because Tesla has no time to design the interior of this car.
It is far more difficult to lay out various buttons in the center console, design and produce them than to put a screen, and then slowly change the software.
Since a lot of functions need to lower your head to operate this screen, including air conditioning, seat heating, sunroof, vehicle settings, etc.
, lowering your head to operate the screen is difficult and dangerous, although the menu design and response speed of the P85 screen are comparable to iPad Air.
As there is no map and navigation function for Chinese consumers, although there is 3G interconnection, it is basically new and never used again.
When I was operating the screen, I almost ran into a rear-end collision.
A bus with dim tail lights was in front of me.
I will define as many functions as possible on the function buttons of the steering wheel, reduce the operation of the central control screen, and ensure the safety of driving.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The shift lever, wiper/steering lever, cruise control lever, and window buttons in the car are all parts of the previous generation of Mercedes-Benz E.
In addition, all the remaining buttons appear on the steering wheel.
The difference in texture of these buttons is comparable to a car with less than 100,000 yuan.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The P85 seat is also scum.
The front seat looks like a sports car seat, but there is no package in any dimension.
For the height of more than 180cm, the integrated headrest will not give you a rear-end collision.
What protection to you.
The texture of the Nappa leather of the seat is not bad, and the softness is very good.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The rear seats are basically nightmare.
The cushions are extremely short, and the height of the cushions is very low (the battery pack below eats up a lot of the height in the car).
Sitting on it feels the same as sitting on a pony.
It is more than 180cm.
The row of headrests is a decoration, directly on the back of the neck, and the hair can easily reach the top.
The only consolation is that the P85 does not have a drive shaft, the rear ground is completely flat, and there is a lot of legroom.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">There is no place to put things in the back of the P85, and there is no rear center armrest.
There is even more disgusting, the Model S child safety seat interface has not considered the market outside the United States at all (the United States uses the Latch soft link), when the ISOFIX (European and Chinese standard) structure of the child safety seat is fixed When the seat belt socket is directly blocked, for ISOFIX seats over 3 years old, the ISOFIX of P85 is a decoration, and the safer ISOFIX socket can only be discarded.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Secure with a seat belt.
There is also a possibility that both European and American Model S can be equipped with two child safety seats in the trunk without occupying the back row.
Unfortunately, China does not provide this option.
Whether you are riding in the back seat by yourself or wishing to take a child in the back seat, I do not recommend you to buy a P85 at all.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The interior of the P85 is pure plastic smell, the smell is not too big, but it has been lingering.
The optional high-fidelity sound effect is excellent, second only to the 3D version of the Voice of Berlin on the Mercedes-Benz S65.
Recently, I like to listen to Prayer In C repeatedly in the P85, especially the wonderful prelude.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">These issues I mentioned, it is estimated that Tesla will also be aware of it.
Therefore, the P85D's new seat has been improved in quality, and the wrapping and headrest have been greatly improved.
Tesla also specially designed the original central storage compartment accessories to solve the problem of less storage space in the car.
As for the interior, the interior of any car needs to be greatly improved, and only a major facelift can be achieved.
Model S still has a cycle of at least three to four years.

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7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">【Power and control】

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">I said on Weibo very early: P85 provides a driving experience of 2 million yuan and an internal performance of 100,000 yuan.
I still insist on this view today.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">It can provide vehicles similar to the P85 in terms of driving experience.
It is estimated that 2s ease-out; transition: all 0.
2s ease-out; color: rgb(237, 85, 101);">Audi 's S8 and Mercedes-Benz S63/S65.
Although the competitors are so strong, the P85 is still far ahead in many aspects.
The reason for the good driving experience is largely due to the inherent advantages of the electric motor.
Unlike many electric vehicles transformed from fuel vehicles, the P85 is a vehicle built entirely on the basis of electric motors and batteries.
It has all the inherent advantages of electric vehicles.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The motor won't have any vibration or noise.
The smoothness and decreasing vibration that V8 and V12 strive to create are non-existent and non-existent on the P85.
There is no gearbox, so there is no setback.
This ride comfort is not available in any 7AT, 8AT, or 9AT, and it is also not available in all other electric cars on the market (all electric cars I have driven, none of them can Reach the level of smoothness of P85, and the gap is quite large).
The silky lubrication of Dove and Pantene can't describe the smoothness of the P85.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Since the electric motor and the controller are directly placed on the rear axle, the vehicle does not have any mechanical traditional system, and the steering is also purely electric, so any mechanical vibration or resonance will not be transmitted to you.
The performance of the P85 air suspension is also very good, the suspension does not have any unnecessary mechanical vibration, the suspension is clean when passing the speed bump, and the response speed and comfort are even ashamed of M and AMG.
As for the steering strength (adjustable), the brakes, and the foot feel of the accelerator pedal, they are so good that they are unbelievably good.
If I set these aspects, the performance of the P85 is what I want most, no more, no less.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Although it does not have the double-glazed glass of the whole car like many D-class luxury cars, the noise reduction treatment of the P85 is also very good, thanks to the exceptionally outstanding wind resistance design (CAD test, Model S is the wind resistance coefficient of the mass-produced car) Lowest), the rearview mirror has no noise, the door handle is stowed, and only a little wind noise comes from the frameless glass, which is very subtle.
The electric motor has no noise, the air conditioner is quiet, and the tire noise is also very low.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As for the power, the electric motor has a special charm.
It has no gearbox and has the maximum torque at any time.
It does not need to wait for the speed or downshift.
Any speed is directly ejected.
When driving at a speed of less than 100 hours, any time the accelerator pedal is stepped on, the vehicle will go out instantly.
The feeling of pushing the back is not enough to describe this feeling.
The dizziness caused by acceleration is the biggest feeling many people experience when driving a Tesla for the first time.
As for the power recovery system that many people don't like, you will like it after three days of driving.
The accelerator can be used to control the acceleration and deceleration of the vehicle.
It is just a matter of habit.
It will feel very good when you get used to it.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Without going down the track, or running on the mountain road, 99% of the road conditions, the P85 is the car with the best driving feeling on this road, providing a luxury driving experience of 2 million.
P85 also has some problems, and it is not small, the electric motor is its advantage, it will also become its weakness.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The biggest problem is the corners.
It's not that the P85 corners are easy to lose control or that the cornering speed is very slow, but the feeling of cornering.
P85 has no gearbox and transmission system, and no engine speed.
When cornering, the traction and inertia of the power system will make you feel very strange.
It's like driving a car with a speed of 50 kilometers per hour, but it is in 8-speed 1000.
Take a turn.
At this time, loosening the accelerator pedal power recovery will mess up, and the dynamics of the body when the accelerator pedal is stepped on is a bit abrupt.
The motor only has the ability to decelerate and accelerate in the curve, and does not have the controllable and predictable traction and inertia of traditional cars, and it is very boring in the curve.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">No matter how low the center of gravity of the P85’s battery is and how good the suspension support is, the weight of nearly 2.
2 tons will add extra inertia to corners.
The narrower tires and the almost non-wrapped seats make me more willing to be standard.
Been to the corner without any interest in going to the corner.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">A curve, assuming that the BMW M3 can pass at a speed of 80, in fact, the P85 can pass at a speed of at least 70.
It just brings you the feeling and feedback that will make you only dare to pass at a speed of 50.
At the level of detours and emergency changes, the P85 is more like an extended D-class luxury car, and the feeling level will be worse.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">This result also has an advantage: it is safe on bends.
Those who drown can swim, and Tesla's accidents mostly occurred in the acceleration of the straights, which it is best at, rather than the weakest corners.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">There is another problem with the motor, that is, it will decay significantly when the speed is high, and the maximum speed is not high.
Within the speed of 150 hours, the acceleration performance of the P85 is the level of a gasoline car with five or six hundred horsepower.
It exceeds the speed of 150 hours and the top speed is at the level of a petrol car with 150 horsepower at best.
If I drive in a city, I am still very willing to drive the P85.
It is smooth and quiet.
When there is a traffic jam, there will be no frustration of switching between the first, second and third gears of a traditional car, and there is no excess energy consumption and emissions.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">There is one more thing to note, this is related to safety.
As mentioned earlier, the P85 tires are only 245 in width, which is not a problem when the weather is warm, but it is a problem when the temperature drops.
In November, when commuting to and from get off work, the temperature in Beijing is around 10 degrees, at any speed within 100 degrees.
As long as you step on the accelerator pedal with your big foot, the rear wheels of the P85 will slip slightly.
It is hard to imagine that the grip of the sub-zero tires will change.
Into what.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">For those northern car owners whose energy consumption per 100 kilometers exceeds 25kWh (exceeding this energy consumption, they must be car owners who particularly like to accelerate), it is strongly recommended that you replace winter tires.
Whether it is a 19-inch standard or a 21-inch PS2, with P85 torque, the performance in winter will be very bad.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">【Charge and battery】

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">My average energy consumption for more than 7000 kilometers is 20 degrees/100 kilometers, and 1 degree is the 1kWh displayed by the vehicle.
If you look at the cost of energy consumption alone, one kilowatt-hour of electricity is 0.
5 yuan, and a liter of fuel is 7.
3 yuan.
A car with similar performance is in a traffic jam environment in Beijing, and the fuel consumption is about 14 liters/100 kilometers.
The cost of an electric car per kilometer is that of a gasoline car.
1/10.
Of course, 10%-15% of the electricity in the charging process will be wasted.
In this regard, it will be repaired.
Electric vehicles do not need to be maintained.
As for whether the cost of the battery is enough to add gasoline for a lifetime, the discussion will no longer continue, because I do not oppose this view.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As long as the kinetic energy recovery is turned on (the P85’s kinetic energy recovery feels the best, all electric vehicles are far behind), my usual driving style P85 can drive about 400 kilometers with a full charge, which is in any big city in China.
, You can run safely around the clock.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">If you want to buy Model S, a fixed charging station is essential and sufficient.
Whether it is at home or downstairs in the company, as long as you can install a charging station (32 amps) dedicated to you, you can use this car in cities and suburbs with confidence.
If you don't have the conditions to install a charging pile, don't swell your face to fill a fat man.
Honestly buy a petrol car.
Public charging piles will make your quality of life drop drastically.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">P85 provides an 8-year warranty.
How to repair the broken motor and battery? There is no need to repair, as long as it breaks down within 8 years, it will be replaced with a new one.
The cost of being a car owner is negligible.
One more thing, it feels so good not to go to the gas station, I have forgotten what the gas station chief is like.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The biggest problem with the popularity of electric vehicles lies in the battery.
One is the density of the battery, the second is the price of the battery, and the third is the output of the battery.
Why does P85 use 18650? In any case, 2s ease-out; transition: all 0.
2s ease-out; color: rgb(237, 85, 101);">Panasonic ’s 18650 is still the highest density battery that can meet Tesla’s production needs.
The P85’s 85kWh battery pack weighs only 500 kilograms.
Check it out.
How much is the 50kWh battery pack used in the car with the closest battery level to Telsa.
Let's check how heavy the battery packs of those 20kWh electric vehicles are.
If the P85 uses ternary or lithium iron phosphate batteries, it is estimated that the car will go back to 2.
5 tons.
The battery part of the P85 exceeds US$20,000, which does not include the cost of packaging and battery management systems.
According to calculations, the cost of the entire battery pack is more than US$30,000.
Panasonic has recently increased the price, and Tesla can’t find any.
substitute.
This is why Tesla has to invest billions of dollars to build a battery factory.
One is the price and the other is the output.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As for the energy density of the battery, there are rumors that the energy density of the battery has been increased several times every few years, and there is no one that has actually been realized.
What is the actual situation? In the past ten years, the energy density of batteries has actually increased by only about 25%.
The batteries in the laboratory whose density has been doubled are either bragging or cost as high as gold and cannot be commercialized.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Before the realization of controllable nuclear fusion, don't expect qualitative changes in batteries too much.
Just like Tesla and BYD, it is enough to go down-to-earth through large-scale commercialization to continuously increase production and reduce costs.
If five years later, the heavily remodeled Model S with the same cost and the same weight of battery pack can travel 1,000 kilometers continuously, will it officially begin the revolution?

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">[Is it worth buying?]

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Regarding the environmental protection of the P85, in a country dominated by coal and electricity, I neither think that electric vehicles have any special environmental advantages (it is just that the emissions are transferred out of the big cities), nor do I think that the battery will be deadly due to conspiracy theories.
Pollution.
The main purpose of my purchase of P85 is to fully experience and understand the best electric car.
When electric cars become a trend in the future, I can take advantage of the trend.
This is the same reason I used the Internet and mobile Internet very early.
I embrace electric cars, and I also like traditional cars; I embrace the Internet and mobile Internet, and I also like exquisite magazines and TV entertainment programs.
These are not conflicts, it is not an all-or-nothing problem, let alone the stupid thinking mode of standing in line.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Most people will not be potential consumers of P85.
If you don't have fixed charging facilities, I really advise you not to buy an electric car.
The quality of life will be greatly reduced.
If you have the charging conditions, the P85 is not your first car, and you are still in a restricted city where Tesla can get a license plate for free, then buy one as soon as possible.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">In addition to the charging conditions that need to be met, buying a P85 requires a clear positioning of your own needs.
I feel that one of the two conditions is met, and you have a reason to buy.
1.
I have more than one car, but I also want to buy a car for transportation.
Tesla is a good scooter, because electric vehicles are indeed better than fuel vehicles, and Tesla is really the most electric vehicle.
Good (and the most expensive); 2, I have more than one car, I need a big technology toy, P85 is also a good choice.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">If you want to spend a million to buy a real luxury car, whether it is driving or riding, you should not choose P85, because it is a semi-finished product, there is no luxury in the car, and the back row is a bench-level experience.
If you want to spend a million to buy a high-performance car or sports car, don’t buy a P85 either.
Although it accelerates for more than 4 seconds, it has no fun in corners and can’t get off the track.
The P85 will not have the ever-changing experience of gears and engine speeds.
It is a comfortable straight-line ejection machine.
Even if you buy the P85, you will sell it after a few months of freshness.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">As for me, I do have all the conditions for purchase.
Although the P85 has various deficiencies that make people criticize, there will be other cars to make up for it.
The P85 only needs to bring me the experience that belongs to it.
The new P85D has made great progress in performance and seating, which also gave me new expectations.
Next year, I will replace the P85 with a new Model X model (it is estimated that it will directly use the P85D power and four-wheel drive system), this seven-seater SUV/MPV hybrid model, I do not expect any improvement in its interior, but Four-wheel drive, seven-seater and greatly improved seats are what I look forward to more.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">The power and suspension are amazing, and the interior and seats are stale.
This is a summary of all my feelings about the P85.

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">I hope that Telsa China will launch maps and navigation as soon as possible, otherwise it will be regarded as a fraud to consumers, although Lin Chiling's voice is free.
And the accessories for the central storage slot are introduced to China as soon as possible.
Watching my mobile phone and wallet scurrying back and forth, I am going crazy!0

7999992370605px; text-indent: 0px;">Reprinted from Auto House, the author is Li Xiang, the founder of Auto House